November 4th, 2009
11:52 AM ET
The Amanda Knox murder trial

The mere mention of Amanda Knox elicits strong opinions. People across the world have been fascinated by her case - it's taken the world and media by storm since her roommate, Meredith Kercher, was first found murdered in November 2007.

I remember the exact moment Meredith Kercher was found dead when I was working at CourtTVNews.com. Instantly, I was intrigued. As time passed and the case slowly worked its way through the Italian justice system, Knox’s case slipped to the back of my mind.

Earlier this summer I began to wonder what was happening to Knox? What became of all of the evidence the prosecution touted early on?

There had been so much tabloid fodder about Amanda ­it seemed to overshadow the case. As a crime and court junkie, I wanted to take it back to the facts. The task of trying to cover an Italian case from Atlanta, Georgia, was difficult. With the help of Amy Sahba, in our New York bureau, we were able to speak to sources close to the prosecution in Italian to get their side of the story.

Eventually we were also able to get a copy of the crime scene video. We hoped that showing each piece of evidence side by side with what the prosecution and defense said, would help the readers feel like they were going through a detective's files.

Closing arguments for Knox and her former boyfriend, Rafaelle Sollecito, begin on November 20.

Many of the players in this story have big dates coming up too. Rudy Guede, who was convicted in a separate trial of Kercher's murder, will have his appeal two days before Knox's and Sollecito' s lawyers begin their closing arguments. And the prosecutor in this case is facing his own verdict in a case about prosecutorial misconduct.

The jury in Italy will ultimately have to choose a side, and choose to believe either the prosecution or Knox and Sollecito. Who do you believe?

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November 4th, 2009
12:55 pm ET
 

I have been keeping up with this case, not all the time, but as much as I can.
I don't have a clue as to what, happened in this case, at first I was leaning towards Amanda and Boyfriend being guilty, but as this went along, I started thinking maybe she is not gulity. And as far as the boyfriend goes I still don't have a clue. I still can not understand why, Rudy Guede was convicted, and I also think he confessed, at some point in his trial. If Amanda and her ex-boyfriend are not guilty, then why would this person Rudy be convicted? I guess that their is a lot we don't know about this case. I am glad I am not on the jury. Either way a young woman is dead, and someone killed her. I feel for her parents, they have lost their child to a killer, who needs to be put away for the rest of their natural life. T hank you.

Posted by: phyllis sanders
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November 4th, 2009
1:50 pm ET
 

Follow the evidence and the facts. Not the suppositions or projections or theories. Facts do not lie, but theories are personal. Hopefully the Italian jury will be able to see what the FACTS are and was is PROVED by the evidence, and judge accordingly. I, along with all of the readers of these articles, know nothing more than what the media has reported. That is not enough for anyone to make a judgement.

Posted by: Gordon
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November 4th, 2009
2:46 pm ET
 

What I don't understand is if this Rudy Guede requested a speedy trial and was convicted...then why did he not (back then during his trial) try to plea a deal with the prosecution and testify against Amande and her boyfriend to get a lesser sentence? Why didn't he come out back then and say that they were there also, that they were the ones who killed them, etc....did i miss something? And, if Amanda and her boyfriend were in fact guilty.....why haven't they turned on each other and do a plea deal and be used to testify as a prosecutor's witness against one or the other? Maybe it's because they really are innocent...because even at this point....one or the other would be determined not to spend the rest of their life and prison....so, yeah if they were guilty, that would have turned on each by now.

Posted by: Valerie
4
November 4th, 2009
3:03 pm ET
 

Oh please, she is trying to worm out of a situation that she was knee deep in. She was there, she knew what was going on, she is guilty.

Posted by: Robert
5
November 4th, 2009
3:11 pm ET
 

Wow, Robert, were you there too? How do you know all this? Pure speculation on your part...

Posted by: tokick
6
November 4th, 2009
3:27 pm ET
 

I don't believe she is guilty. There is evidence that proves otherwise. I hop she is aquitted soon.

Posted by: Marcie
7
November 4th, 2009
3:28 pm ET
 

'hope' that is. . .

Posted by: Marcie
8
November 4th, 2009
3:29 pm ET
 

There is so many variables that are questionable,

Here are the facts:

-A Knife Found in Raffaele house with Amanda's DNA on the Handle, and Meredith DNA on the Blade.

-A Bra Clasp from Meredith bra found in her room with Raffaele DNA on it.

-A Bloody footprint on the bathroom rug was found that forensics experts who said matches Rudy Guede.

-A broken Window

-Crime Scene contamination, Crime scene videos shows investigators sometimes not wearing gloves, prodding their fingers in Meredith's wounds, leaving key pieces of evidence for weeks and moving them around for no reason. Also breaking a window for no reason.

-A Bloody shoe print in Meredith's room, Forensic specialist for Raffaele testified that he believes it was wrongly attirbuted to sollecito and belongs to Rudy.

Posted by: Richard
9
November 4th, 2009
3:35 pm ET
 

I just heard about this case on CNN.Com for the first time today and from what little info that I have seen it has still been enough for the jury to not be able to prove without a reasonable doubt that Knox and her boyfriend are guilty, now im not sure if Italy holds those standards and quite frankly when have we ever used that law in america, where people are guilty until proven innocent. Everything that I have read points to the other guy. I dont see any motive for them and the evidence has been handled poorly and its all substancial. They don't even have a difinitive murder weapon. And to Robert what basis is your statement made?

Posted by: JUSTIN
10
November 4th, 2009
4:07 pm ET
 

Three well thought out intellectual comments and then there is Robert.

Posted by: Joe
11
November 4th, 2009
4:15 pm ET
 

"If Amanda and her ex-boyfriend are not guilty, then why would this person Rudy be convicted?"

Uh, because Mr. Guede commited the crime and Amanda and Rafaello did not?

Just a stab,( so to speak).

Posted by: gene
12
November 4th, 2009
4:20 pm ET
 

It astounds me when people say they acted a certain way because they were pressured and cofused, no matter how pressure and confused you feel, would you confess to a murder you did not commit ? Especially if it was somebody close to you ? If you did,
then you should accept whatever fate comes your way.

Posted by: Jessica Castillo
13
November 4th, 2009
4:27 pm ET
 

Over a year ago a full story came out on Rudy Guede. He was a known drifter that hung around the area. He had prior convictions for theft and breaking and entering. He was positively identified by others as a thief. He was in possession of stolen goods. He was also know for carrying a knife and threatening people he robbed with it. Not surprisingly, the description victims provided of his knife was more in line with the type of knife that killed this poor english girl. The right guy has been found guilty. Amanda and her boyfriend are just stupid kids in over their heads. This is not surprising considering the sensationalism put forth by the prosecution and the fact, yes fact, that in multiple instances the lead proscecutor has made references to satanic cults and his belief that they were all involved in a cult and with the devil....I am not making this up.

Posted by: Dugg
14
November 4th, 2009
4:46 pm ET
 

It just seems "all" too weird and something doesn't seem to make sense. I agree – why aren't they turning on each other – because I think they were all there and all had "something" to do with it. Each played some part!

Posted by: Deborah
15
November 4th, 2009
5:09 pm ET
 

Amanda Knox and boyfriend was captured on CCTV in the car park opposite the house where they lived, on the evening of the murder, she denied being there,
until this footage was shown, also many changes to her story from the beginning, this is usually an indication that something is wrong. Maybe! Just maybe, being far from home and being an American gave her a false sense of being able to do what ever she pleased and get away with it!!

Posted by: Yoko
16
November 4th, 2009
5:16 pm ET
 

If she's innocent why did she blame another man (P. Lumbada-bar owner who is now suing Knox on civil defamation chgs)?

Posted by: Jeb
17
November 4th, 2009
5:21 pm ET
 

This is another example of how the media can put ideas into peoples' heads and make people look guilty, before they even get to defend themselves. First off, I feel that neither of these two, Amanda nor her boyfriend, should be convicted. The evidence is just not there. It sounds like the Italian police really messed this investigation up, BAD! I hope they found a jury that doesn't watch any tv at all, because the media already has convicted Amanda and her boyfriend unfairly!
As for the prosecution saying that he believes that they were part of a satanic cult, where is this fools evidence? He can't just go in there and say that "he believes," without some sort of evidence. What is happening to the court system, granted it's not in America, but it sounds just like our courts! What happened to the belief, "guilty until proven innocent?" I think it should now be, "guilty or innocent? Let the media decide!"
I hope the jury listens to the evidence put forth, not to how the media has portrayed Amanda and her boyfriend!

Posted by: Rae
18
November 4th, 2009
5:25 pm ET
 

Jessica,

People confess to crimes all the time under undue police pressure, and not just overseas, here in the US. Usually it is after hours and hours of questioning, threatening, lack of sleep, sometimes not letting people even use restroom facilities.

Sometimes people are scared into thinking that they'll be convicted and given even a worse sentence. Sometimes trickery or good cop/bad cop is used. Police aer allowed to lie to suspects to elicit confessions. Sometimes suspects are so tired and mentally numb that they confess just to end the questioning.

In the US, more than 30 felony convictions have been overturned due to improper eliciting of a confession – cases that turned out to have a different perpetrator.

If you read the entire article, Amanda's alleged confession took place during a time in the interrogation when the police were asking her to imagine what she might have seen/done had she been at the crime scene.

Please think about these things before the next time you pass such harsh judgment on people. The world is not so black and white.

Personally, imho, if OJ and those Dutch kids are free, then so should Amanda and her boyfriend be.

Posted by: Leanne H
19
November 4th, 2009
5:54 pm ET
 

As I sit here and read everything for the first time, I come to a conclusion First and foremost; a young woman murdered. Second; all were close friends. so therefore in today's age casual contact could transfer miniscule DNA. Third; after a night of partying her friends left her with a known drifter. He has confessed to the crime. The others are caught up in media frenzy. After all is said and done: God will be the ultimate Jury and Executioner.

Posted by: Paul
20
November 4th, 2009
6:32 pm ET
 

To all those who think Amanda ad Raefelle are guilty: WHERE IS THE MOTIVE? Two young adults in the prime of thier lives dont just throw them away. Especially someone like Amanda who worked two jobs to be able to study abroad in Italy. Italian Police, Courts and Gov't messed up and now have to save face. Its a scary revelation, im not just saying it google Larry King Live interview with Kurt Knox and Melinda.

Posted by: Jake
21
November 4th, 2009
6:38 pm ET
 

and in response to Jeb, Amanda was intailly questioned intensely about Patrick L. because she sent him a text saying "C ya later" which the Italian police interpreted as "see you later Patrick at my house to go break in and kill Meredeth" When really it meant see you later – presumeably at thier work. They saw that text and grilled her for 14 hrs, trying to make a square peg fit in a round hole.......

Posted by: Jake
22
November 4th, 2009
6:46 pm ET
 

To my amaze...I've been following this case since the get go...and what is causing her problems is how she handle herself and what she did right after that is puzzling to me. If you hear someone close to you is murder and murder in your home...will you go out shopping, and romantic walks...NO... I will be near the scene, helping as much as I can. this girl go caught up in the moment, the moment was violent and sad and now she's got to stand for what she did. I'm not saying she did the killing but sound to me she was there and participated in the entire violent aftermath. I feel for the other girls family.

Posted by: taylor
23
November 4th, 2009
7:44 pm ET
 

Amanda and her Boyfriend are GUILTY!!!
- Why implicate Mr. Lambada?
- Merideth's DNA in Boyfriends knife
- Boyfriends DNA in Merideth's bra
- Amanda and Merideth don't get along
- Amanda's presence in a store buying cleaning stuff
- Boyfriend's alibi not solid
I'm american, but a murder is a murder we can't let this murderers go free.

Posted by: al
24
November 4th, 2009
8:11 pm ET
 

In Italy, everything is a drama. The prosecutor gets his theories from a pychic...and this is normal in Italy! Outrageous handling and mishandling of evidence! Now they are just saving face, selling newspapers and justifying their jobs.

Posted by: Archie Leach
25
November 4th, 2009
8:20 pm ET
 

The forensic and circumstantial evidence against Knox and Sollecito is very strong as detailed on the site truejustice.org. There's the knife evidence of course. Why would the victim's DNA be on a knife at Sollecito's house, where there was no evidence she ever went? Sollecito was a self-confessed knife enthusiast, who'd collected knives since he was 13. Therefore, perhaps the knife found with DNA was not the only knife used (explaining different wound sizes). Then there's the bloody foot- and shoeprint evidence, which a lot of American media are ignoring. A bloody woman's shoeprint exactly matching Knox's size (but not the victim's) was found UNDER THE BODY. Explain that, without involving a woman at the crime scene. Luminol tests showed 2 bloody footprints in two divergent spots in the hallway that matched Knox's foot. The intermediate footprints had been cleaned up, showing that someone with access to the house had come back after the murder to clean up. A neighbor heard running of more than one person down the apartment's metal steps immediately after a "loud, long" blood-curdling scream, indicating there was more than one murderer (if you've ever lived in an apartment that you enter thru metal steps, as I have, you know they have a very distinctive sound when someone ascends or descends them, and you can usually tell if there is one person or more than one by the noise level). Apart from the clearly visible bloody footprint in the bathroom that an expert testified matched Sollecito (but not Guede), there was a luminol-exposed footprint in the hallway that also matched only Sollecito. I would urge you to look at the actual evidence before assuming this is only a media frenzy.

Posted by: Beatrice
26
November 4th, 2009
8:43 pm ET
 

Beyond the physical evidence, what seems to be missing to me is any evidence that Knox/Sollecito have any connection to this "drifter" Guede. Is there any proof that these three are in someway connected?

Posted by: Dan
27
November 4th, 2009
9:06 pm ET
 

Looking only at the evidence that is available in the news, I'd have to acquit. There just isn't enough to convict.
I'm not sure how it is in Italy, but in the US, innocence is presumed until guilt is proven.
I don't see that it has been even close to being proven.

Posted by: Buck Newton
28
November 4th, 2009
9:26 pm ET
 

As a former criminal defense attorney of 50% Italian heritege, I followed this case with interest. The sheer volume of sensational pretrial and trial publicity almost fooled me into thinking that Sollecito and Knox were guilty of something to do with the murder. Then I read "The Monster of Florence", which exposes the ineptitude and rush to judgement style of the prosecutor in this case and a legal system that allows him to get away with the procedures he uses, such as 17 hour plus interrogations without counsel or an english interpreters. I then dug into the facts–there are none that clearly support the charges. The satanic type sex game appears to be a figment of the prosecutor's imagination to fill up the large holes in the case, and to facilitate this he uses the press and some of the mistakes Knox made after her arrest that are irrelevant to the charges. They already have a conviction of the guy who apparently did it, since he accepted a "fast track" trial, which tantamount to a guilty plea.The book explains how and why the prosecutor is under criminal charges himself for manipulating the prosecution in a serial murder case many years ago. Unfortunatey, it also points out that he has gotten away with this style for a long time and that does not bode well for Mr. Sollecito and Ms. Knox.

Posted by: chris
29
November 4th, 2009
9:49 pm ET
 

Paul you are wrong the victim was not uot partying she had watched a movie with freinds and gone home early.
Amanda told way too many lies to be innocent in ths.

Posted by: Jane
30
November 4th, 2009
9:54 pm ET
 

God has nothing to do with it.
No one knows the facts except the police and lawyers.

Deals will be made behind the scenes between each parties lawyers.
American and Italian authorities and political representatives may or may not get involved.

Some one will get be charged.
Someone will go free.
Whether or not justice will be served, you 'll never really know.

Posted by: mark
31
November 4th, 2009
10:01 pm ET
 

Although my vote doesn't count...I don't think either of these two are guilty. I think the only guilty man has already been convicted.

Posted by: Bryant
32
November 4th, 2009
10:21 pm ET
 

I really do think she was involved... The evidence suggests she and Kerchner connected with that knife, which somehow wound up in the boyfriends apt. I think she brought it over there. Also, Kids her age experimentwith sex and violence. Add drink and emotional instability, and
you might wind up with a recipe for murder...

Posted by: Angela
33
November 4th, 2009
11:15 pm ET
 

I've been following and I even watched an hour show about a british writer that left Italy.
He and an italian writer had problem with the same man.

There's no reason for Amanda to do that...
they didn't know each other that long.

I believe that language problem may have caused some misunderstandings.

Amanda is from Seattle...she had no reason to go wild in a small town in Italy.

She has relatives in Germany and etc.

Seattle is a big city.

I just hope that Amanda can prove her in a fair trial.

Though she's a foreign there.

Posted by: roberta
34
November 5th, 2009
2:56 am ET
 

She's on trial for being American.

He's on trial for being an American's boyfriend.

It's a political hack job. Period. End of story.

The man who committed the crime has been convicted. The rest is political circus.

Posted by: Jean V
35
November 5th, 2009
8:47 am ET
 

The convicted drifter Guede is the one that killed foxy's roomate.
Case Closed.

Move along.

Posted by: OJ
36
November 5th, 2009
9:00 am ET
 

It takes a lot of work to actually get to the facts, if you are a member of the public. The transcripts are in Italian. And the pres reports are rarely correct. To be clear, the poster above is incorrect. Knox and Sollecito were never found to be on a CCTV video. There is nothing that contradicts their supposition that they were in bed all night – with the exception of their own foggy testimony.

Virtually all of the prosecution's evidence has been discreditted. By US standards, none fo the DNA evidence would be admissable. None.

To me, there is only one truly telling fact: Guede – who is proven by DNA , prints and his own testimony to have beeen there – stated on a bugged call that he was there, and did not see Knox or Sollecito. He has recanted that, since, but it is hard to erase the notion of a secretly recorded call between two friends that comes up with this evidence.

I cannot decide whether Knox and Sollecito are guilty or not. But I can say, with 100% certainty – that the prosecution has not presented any evidence that they are guilty. After 2 years, Migini ought to have been able to do that. If there is any justice or santy in Italy, the pair will be aquitted.

Posted by: Brian O'Connor
37
November 5th, 2009
9:17 am ET
 

Anyone remember the Salem Witch trials?? From what I've read, this is another example of Keystone Cops, shoddy police work and the need to find someone guilty...regardless of the truth.

Of course I don't know everything about this trial, but it smells of botched police work. 'Attractive' characters, the media frenzy and an american girl (those american girls studying in Italy are always presumed to be sluts) , gives the prosecutor his moment in the limelight. Next thing we'll be hearing is that she has a picture of Charlie Manson in her cell!

I agree, if they were guilty either Amanda or Raphaele would have flipped on the other by now. They hadn't been dating for very long so I don't see deep-rooted loyalty towards one another.

Posted by: Carolne
38
November 5th, 2009
9:18 am ET
 

One fact about the 'confession': The police found – at the scene – a har consisistent with African heritage. They also found, on Knox' cell phone, a text message that said – in crude Italian – See ya Later. The thing is, that saying is an American idiom that does not translate to Italian. Know tried, but the message was interpreted to mean ' I will meet you at the appointed time this evening'. This message was from Congolese bar owner Patrick Lumumba. So the police had it very muchin their mind that a night club owner they did not like – and who knew both suspect and victim – was the killer. Know did not come up with the explanation extemporaneously. It was suggested to her over and over again. This has been translated fron the offiial transcrpts and reports.

THis is the genesis of the so called confession. All one needs to do is watch one of the reality cop shows to see – and this si the stuff they actually let on TV – that the police manipulate witnesses. I do nto see it as a stretch that a 19 year old girl woudl cave under the pressure. TO be clear, even inthe confession, she stated that she was unaware of what was goig on, and could simply hear the screams My interpretation of all that I coudl read is that the police said somethign like the following."We kow Lumumba was there. This is a fact. We have evidence. All you have to do to leave here tonight is to say that Lumumba was there and that you heard the commotion. Once we arrest him, he will have to confess." I do not know this to be a fact. But the facts that I do know make usch a supposition more than likely. Is Knox a good person for goign along with that? No, it was pretty weak in character. But who amongst us can say, with certainty, that we woudl not do the same?

Posted by: happyman
39
November 5th, 2009
10:25 am ET
 

My gut feeling is that she is innocent, and the Italian media tried so desparately to "paint her" as the person guilty of the crime. This is not unusual as Americans in Europe are seldom looked upon as us being one of "them" So to put the blame on her and her boy friend is only natural for the Italian police. If jury has any brain whatsoever, they will not convict her. But then again, this is the Italian court and not all of the legal procedures are followed as they do here in the U.S.

Posted by: Peter
40
November 5th, 2009
10:38 am ET
 

Knox is clearly innocent but will be convicted because of the powerful anti-American sentiment in Italy. Frankly, the phrase "Italian justice" is an obscenity.

Posted by: Show-me Skeptic
41
November 5th, 2009
10:44 am ET
 

If one accepts that Guede was convicted based on a fair trial, that accurately describes events the night of the murder, then one must also accept the innocence of Sollecito and Knox. Guede provided a convoluted account of events to try and appear innocent. And nowhere in his account did he implicate Sollecito and Knox. I believe Guede is surely guilty and would have readily jumped on them as an alibi. My heart goes out to both Sollecito and Knox.

Posted by: annabelle
42
November 5th, 2009
10:48 am ET
 

You are all forgetting one damning pice of evidence. Amanda tried to pin this murder on an innocent bartender. Think sbout it. If you were implicated in a murder- would your reaction be to fabricate an elaborate story about how your neighbor/co-worker came in your domicile and killed your housemate?

Posted by: Ray
43
November 5th, 2009
11:42 am ET
 

She seems pretty guilty to me. As an Englishman I have been following the case closely and it is fair to say that the crime scene, and therefore the evidence can be questioned.

What cannot be questioned is Amanda Knox's words from her own mouth.

Why, for example, did she implecate Patrick Lumumba when he had absolutely nothing to do with the crime? (This is proven)

Why did she change her alibi on a number of occassions? For example: She heard Kerchers screams and covered her ears to she was then at Sollecito's house. I don't care how stoned you are you don't get THAT confused.

People can talk about the DNA being tainted and so on but why, why, would she tell two such glaring lies?

GUILTY and the media drive in America, such as having "experts" in America discrediting the Italian legal system whilst having no counter argument, is sickening. Drumming up public support and donations on the basis of propganda.

Posted by: Lord Justice
44
November 5th, 2009
12:08 pm ET
 

We forget that som Italians are prejudiced against balck people just as Americans are. I suspect that is why the police immediately gravitated to the black bar owner. It sounds like Meredith was a good girl and not much of a party girl. Could be the black bar owner was the closest thing to a "seedy character" that she knew. Hard to know what Amanda may or may not have said to the police. She may have been trying to be helpful and inadvertently said things off the cuff that now sound bad in retrospect. I find it hard to believe that a drifter like Guede would fall on his sword and not implicate any and everybody to get some sort of a break. A murdering drifter looks out for 2 white well-to-do kids that he barely knew? Hmmmmmmm. I can't see it.

Amy

Posted by: amy
45
November 5th, 2009
12:11 pm ET
 

there is one consistent thing about the people who say unequivocally that Knox is innocent and that this is all an anti-american hack job....NONE of them have taken the time to review the available testimony, physical evidence and previous statements. none of them cite to specific testimony or facts. none of them offer ANY credible explanation for her 5 different versions of what happened other than to say "she was confused because she was mistreated." once again, her OWN LAWYERS gave up on that argument a long time ago and, in any event, it does not explain the clear accusation of an innocent man–an accusation which she reaffirmed the day after she made it while under NO pressure at all. Maybe she's just a compulisve liar and/or idiot, but I find the evidence to be consistent with her involvment in the crime. Perhaps Guede (on whom all the Knox apologists lay the complete blame) will come clean at some point but, in any event, you need to remember that he has stated that she was in the house that night....

Posted by: Connor
46
November 5th, 2009
12:30 pm ET
 

People! Yopu need 3 things to get a guilty verdict in law. One is Opportunity. She maybe had opportunity. Second is Mensray, Third is MOTIVE. WHERE IS THE MOTIVE? NO MOTIVE, NO GUILTY CRIMINAL VERDICT. THEY WOULD NOT HAVE EVEN BEEN CHARGED IF IT WASN'T FOR THAT MANIPULATIVE PROSECUTOR!!!

Posted by: wayne
47
November 5th, 2009
3:04 pm ET
 

I wonder if the case is really so polarizing or if a group of perhaps ten determined people from two radical message boards have done everything they can to make the commentary as ugly as possible–in their determination to get Raffaele Sollecito and Amanda Knox convicted and Rudy Guede dismissed as a mere bystander (even though nearly all of the evidence points to him). It is amazing to come here and see that they have not yet visited, posted their links, profane comments, and long lists of misstated "evidence." Since we are looking at two good students with zero criminal convictions, it seems like reasonable people could step back, look at the evidence, and agree about many things concerning them. It is very sad, what over-involved spectators will say about complete strangers to get media attention or make up for something missing in their own lives. Thanks to CNN for taking such a thoughtful, sensible approach to the case. It was nice to finally see a report based on fact and not psychoanalysis.

Posted by: Robert Conrad
48
November 6th, 2009
11:26 am ET
 

Robert Conrad – I sincerely hope that your comment is tounge in cheek because if it is not it is quite frankly the most misplaced piece of hypocrisy I have ever had the misfortune to read.

No-one I have I have seen on any message board or in any walk of life things that Guede is innocent. It's just that it is clear as day that Knox is also guilty.

Wayne – you have a poor grasp of law. Certainly Italian law anyway. You don't need a motive to murder. You certainly don't have to have a prove a motive to convict someone of murder. Beyond reasonable doubt is the key.

It is beyond reasonable doubt that Knox's and Kerchers DNA is on a knife in Soleccito's house. A house that Kercher had never visited – how did it get there? Whether people like it or not this evidence has been allowed.

It is beyond reasonable doubt that Knox was there at the time as she said she was "covering her ears to block out the screams". It is also beyond reasonable doubt that she has changed her testimony on this and as such is a liar.

It is beyond reasonable doubt that she again lied when giving false accusations about a bar owner.

It is therefore beyond reasonable doubt that she is guilty.

Posted by: Lord Justice
49
November 9th, 2009
2:42 am ET
 

Why did Amanda intentionally accuse an innocent black man?

Why did she initially deny that she'd met & socialized with Rudy Guede?

Posted by: Hank M.
50
November 10th, 2009
7:21 pm ET
 

Another point nobody seems to have pointed out here is, that despite the fact that Knox lived there, non of here dna or fingerprints were found anywhere in the house.
The crime site had been massively tampered with. Knox was seen buying cleaning products that morning.
If that wasn't suspicious enough, Knox and Sollecito lied about having called the police when the postal police arrived unexpectedly (they are seperate bodies in Italy). They then called the police, 20/30 minutes after they then claimed they had called.
Why did Knox lie about Meredith locking her room, when the other housemate who the pair where waiting for to 'discover' the crime, said this was not true.

Too many inconsistancies, along with the lies in their alibies. She is as guilty as hell. RIP. Meredith.

Posted by: Bernie
51
November 10th, 2009
9:19 pm ET
 

There are a lot of people in this thread who are totally ignorant about the facts in this case.

Amanda named Patrick as the murder, when his airtight alibi checked out she claimed Raffaele killed Meredith (she is now using Raffaele as an alibi). After I saw the blood in the bathroom that the luminol exposed and realized that only Amanda could have been the one to clean the bathroom I was totally convinced that she was involved. Anyone interested, Google/image Amanda Knox and bathroom on the very first page you will the bloody bathroom. On YouTube there is a photo of the bathroom before the luminal was sprayed.

Happyman, your statement is so riddled with inaccuracies I don’t know where to begin. The police did not promise AK that she would go home if she said it was Patrick. Those of you interested in knowing the truth, AK testimony about the interrogation as well as her hand-written statement is online on several sites including YouTube. Go view it for yourself – 48 hours mystery is one.

Chris, I don’t believe that you are an attorney. If you were you would look at the facts of the case and not read a fairytale for the answers. D. Preston’s case proves that the Italian system works – NOT AK INNOCENCE.

Stop saying that Guede did not say that AK and RS were there at the time of the murder, he certainly has stated that they were there, more than once.

Posted by: Kim
52
November 12th, 2009
10:27 am ET
 

I believe it is thought that Meredith was killed by more than one person .. her family say she would have fought hard.. Surely the physical attack evidence points to more than one person involved in her murder?If it wasn't Amanda Knox and Raffaelle Sollicito together with Rude Guede , then who were the others involved ?

Posted by: Diane
53
November 12th, 2009
12:51 pm ET
 

This is a very sad situation, wrong place – wrong time, probably, but innocent, I don't think so. This does not mean Amanda is evil or that she masterminded a murder plot. No, it simply means that a young woman, with bad judgement, made a snap decision, perhaps out of fear, or she was drunk/high, but she showed bad judgement and she's absolutely responsible to face the music for that. She hooked up with some less than desirables and she alone made the decision to either participate, coverup, ignore, lie, run.. she made those decisions. As a parent of kids in their early 20's, it's painful to say, but Amanda has to pay for her lack of judgement, she's not a kid anymore, she's an adult, and as painful as it must be for her parents, they must accept it as well, we have NO control over the decsions our kids make. I've followed the case from the beginning, from that November when I first read the story of the murdered Student, and Ms. Knox hasn't done a single thing to show that she's adult enough to face up to whatever part she played in all of this, the scary part is, she seems to actually beleive that she played NO part. For Meredith's Family, I am glad this trial is coming to an end, they need to heal and learn to move on, and for Amanda's Family, they too need to heal.

Posted by: Beth
54
November 21st, 2009
5:22 pm ET
 

Wasn't there a local store owner who testified that a woman he identified as Amanda waited for his store to open the morning after the murder, entered after he unlocked the door. She then bought cleaning supplies?

Posted by: Larry
55
November 24th, 2009
5:06 pm ET
 

I've kept up with this gut wrenching story from the beginning. Even though the public has only been privy to a limited amount of information and evidence. Based on the evidence, Amanda and Rafaelle are innocent.

Posted by: Fearful
56
November 25th, 2009
2:56 am ET
 

I have also followed this story closely for the past two years, and there is absolutely NO doubt in my mind that Amanda is guilty. It battles me to see so many intelligent people right here in America wanting to free a murderer.

I feel for the poor girl that was murdered and her family, and I hope both Amanda and her boyfriend get what they deserve – life in prison!

Posted by: May
57
November 25th, 2009
5:36 am ET
 

Without stating all of the details, this is an easy case for a jury to deliberate on. If the criminal standard in Italy is the same of that in the US, then the prosecution must prove their case "beyond a reasonable doubt." If the facts as stated in the media are correct, the jury must acquit both Knox and Sollecito since there appear to be too many key facts and pieces of evidence that suggest grave inconsistencies.

If either one or both are convicted based on the facts and evidence presented in this case. there will most certainly be appeals to the highest levels. It may take year, but, I believe Amanda Knox will be coming home.

Posted by: Jeff R
58
November 25th, 2009
3:49 pm ET
 

What bothers me is that those who believe Amanda and Raffaele are guilty don't argue thoroughly or logically. The arguments are more like rants rather than cool, detached analysis. I have not heard convincing evidence of Amanda's and Raffaele's guilt. If anyone thinks they have evidence, it would be better to present it in a merely logical manner. As it is, it seems that they are going on emotion-ridden hunch based on how horrible it would be if she, an unlikely suspect, was involved. The arguments for Amanda's and Raffaele's innocence however tend to be thorough and logically laid out. One can do the math from there when comparing the two types of proofs.

Nobody needs to be convinced about how horrible the crime was. Everyone agrees on that.

Posted by: AnnaDG
59
November 25th, 2009
10:42 pm ET
 

Its colonel Mustard, with the knife, in the library ...

Joke apart, I'm really ashame at the italian police. First asking "imagine you were there" to start a questioning, without a translator, without tapes ... then playing around with he evidence. Then the lack of logic and follow through (interrogations of possible witnesses)in the collection of evidences.

Just terrible. Already 2 years.

Posted by: David
60
November 27th, 2009
9:40 pm ET
 

Guilty!

Posted by: Mamina
61
November 27th, 2009
10:01 pm ET
 

There was a receipt found for bleach in Rafaelle's apartment. Date and time match exactly when Amanda was seen in the store's cleaning department by the store owner at
8:00 AM in the morning after the murder, and she was identified by him in court–he had seen a before with Rafaelle. Bleach was used to clean the crime scene. There was Amanda's blood mixed with Meredith's blood in the bathroom. There are Amanda's bloody footprints. Amanda talked proudly about the exact location where the dead body was lying without having entered Meredith's room and told other people how Meredith's died before the police published these facts. Meriedith died exactly how Amanda decribed it. Rafaelle says he does not remember if Amanda srpent the whole night with him or only part of the night. Rudi provided Amanda and Rafaelle with drugs. They had met several times before. Meredith screamed loud in agony. Why is Amanda saying that Meredith screamed so loud that she had to cover her ears when the bar owner according to her murdered her? Why is the first thing in her mind the scream when she was not there. The bar owner fired Amanda that's why she accused him–revenge. The bar owner hired Meredith instead that's maybe a reaseon why she was murdered. Sometimes it takes so little, especially when drugs are involved. There is so much more evidence. She will be convicted, but for good reasons.

Posted by: Mamina
62
December 4th, 2009
10:39 am ET
 

On November 2, 2007, at 4 a.m. in Seattle, Mellas was awakened by the phone.

"Amanda called [and said] 'I hate to wake you up, but something's not right here, I think someone's been in my house,' " Mellas recalled.

Knox and Sollecito say they were smoking marijuana and having sex at his home the night Kercher was killed. If she is supposively devoted to work and school as they claim, then this type of partying and 4 am hours are unacceptable. You would think if they were getting high then they would just have sex all night and sleep it off at his place – WHY GO HOME AT 4 AM.. what do they have to lose if she wasn't having sex and just getting high then I can understand her wanting to go home at 4 am.. but that wasn't the case...

I also understand that nobody is perfect but come on the drugs.... Not to mention everybody is asking for MOTIVE... when your high on drugs your not in the right state of mind and may possibly hallucinate... Your liable to do anything – including murder or try wild sexual acts that can go wrong and lead to murder.... THEY ARE GUILTY!!!

Posted by: Critic
63
December 4th, 2009
7:41 pm ET
 

The first thing that this INNOCENT chick does is blame an innocent black man. Hmmm, sounds a bit too familiar.

Posted by: mary mary
64
December 4th, 2009
8:52 pm ET
 

GUILTY!! They just announced it. I TOTALLY disagree with this verdict. Almost EVERYTHING in there system is different than ours. I mean there jurors are allowed to discuss the case with whoever they wish to, they can read the newspapers INCLUDING The tabloids that crap is enough information to make anybody sound guilty let alone a defenseless 22 yr old college student that far away from home and probably the first time ever that she had been that far away from home. Then you include a cute boy and the experimenting with alcohol and pot. This poor girl. I mean this is what every college student DREAMS about being able to do go to a BEAUTIFUL foreign country away from mommy and daddy and let loose finally. She probably didn't have much experience with drinking and boys. Then for this to happen this is a 1 in a million thing that happened andt then for it to happen on Halloween night. What a cliche. The evidence is not there that Amanda and her ex-boyfriend did this awful murder. They say that she helped her now ex and the other person who has already been convicted of this murder kill Kercher in a alcohol and drug (pot) induced craze. Come on anybody who has EVER smoked pot and got wasted on booze knows that this combination doesn't make you at ALL crazy or murderous, or MAD or angry or anything like that POT mellows you out. IT CALMS ya down. I feel really bad for the both of them. BUT She never ever was going to get a FAIR trial over there. I mean there were 2 judges in the 6 person jury its taken 2 years for this case to finally be over and this whole time they have been able to talk to whomever they wish, read anything and everything that they wish to that says anything about this case or about Amanda Knox. SHE NEVER was going to be found innocent who would be with this kind of a justice system over there. the only time that they jury was EVER sequestered was when they finally went to talk about a verdict. Please say your prayers for them. Thanks

Posted by: Liz
65
December 4th, 2009
11:55 pm ET
 

its funny to me that everybody thinks she's completely innocent. I'm not gonna say here I know she's guilty, however buying cleaning stuff, kissing and laughing w ur bf the day after your roommate was murdered, Blaming an INNOCENT bar owner (a black guy, Im sure she learned that works in the US) changing her story a couple times proves SHE's a liar, her DNA on a knife although not alot her bf DNA on the bra of the dead roommate is legit. Now its funny reading and people saying oh the black guy who was with them was guilty and what evidence is there for him thats so more overwhelmingly strong that she and her bf doesnt have. No one had a problem with him going but a cute white american girl JUST COULDNT of done this and its OK that she blamed another INNOCENT Man. I wonder if she'd ever said something if they Convicted the man she blaimed?!! This happens IN AMERICA EVERYDAY!! THINK about that while your sobbing over this young lady. Something doesnt add up with all 3 of these people that were convicted and to me its obv that they seem to know A WHOLE LOT MORE than their saying, if not WHY LIE AND WHY BLAME INNOCENT PEOPLE?!! The i was scared cop out AINT DOING IT for me and I'm SHOCKED its not DOING it for more of my FELLOW AMERICAN CITIZENS

Posted by: nic
66
December 4th, 2009
11:58 pm ET
 

Having followed this case as carefully as possible from the U.S. I am shocked with this conviction. Our family vacationed in Italy about 5 years ago, and thought the Italian's were friendly. After this conviction of Knox, I will never return to Italy, and discourage our family and friends from doing so. It was so very, very clear during this trial that the Italian's look at us as the "ugly Americans", and Amanda's conviction is a result of that prejudice. It is a sad statement of their legal system that the jurors were not sequestered, or kept from reading the prejudicial material from the media.

Having a justice system that presumes guilt immediately, with such poor investigative efforts, makes me realize how very fortunate we are in our country, that we are innocent until proven guilty. Thanks go to our founders and to God for this wonderful country in which we live! Naively, I assumed that European countries in today's world had a just system.

Posted by: joanne
67
December 6th, 2009
7:25 am ET
 

I had also read about the purchase of cleaning supplies by Amanda Knox, and the receipt. It these are truly undisputed facts of the case then I believe that they are guilty.

Posted by: Heather
68
December 8th, 2009
10:49 pm ET
 

Hope I am not duplicating any thoughts here, but I find it hard to believe that these three people, who hardly knew each other, conspired to kill this girl over a sex game. Why have they not turned on each other? If one of them actually caused her death with a knife, one would think that at least one of them would come forward and blame it on another. Not one person has accussed either of the other alleged "accomplises."

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